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HumHub vs SiYuan
A side-by-side editorial comparison of HumHub and SiYuan — release velocity, themes, recent moves, and the top alternatives to consider.
HumHub vs SiYuan: at a glance
What is HumHub?
HumHub's public feed carries only betas, and 1.19's is mostly about surviving the upgrade.
The three releases visible here are all pre-release: 1.19.0-beta.1 in July, and 1.18.0-beta.6 and beta.5 before it. The 1.19 beta is dominated by upgrade-path and data-integrity repair — a foreign key violation that aborted the 1.19 comment content_id migration on databases with orphaned rows, a fatal error when deleting a user or running PurgeDeletedContents against content whose underlying record was gone, and a permissions fix where users with ManageSettings but not ManageModules were offered a Configure button on disabled modules. The 1.18 betas are ordinary polish: login screen layout, theme inheritance, validators, translations and installer fixes.
What is SiYuan?
SiYuan stabilises 3.8.1 after a seven-build beta run, all of it widening the agent surface it opened in 3.8.0
SiYuan has just cut 3.8.1 stable, the endpoint of a beta chain that ran six builds in five days. The release groups into three areas: AI integration work - custom editor actions syncing across devices, an Agent panel shortcut, user-level skills read from a shared agents directory, nested rerank API formats and OpenAI Responses API support; editing and database throughput, including virtualised grouped-table rendering and faster document loading; and cross-platform reliability covering HEIF/HEIC previews, PDF export and mobile behaviour. A batch of MCP and publishing-service fixes rounds it out.
HumHub vs SiYuan: editorial side-by-side
HumHub
2.5COLLAB
HumHub's public feed carries only betas, and 1.19's is mostly about surviving the upgrade.
◆ Current state
The three releases visible here are all pre-release: 1.19.0-beta.1 in July, and 1.18.0-beta.6 and beta.5 before it. The 1.19 beta is dominated by upgrade-path and data-integrity repair — a foreign key violation that aborted the 1.19 comment content_id migration on databases with orphaned rows, a fatal error when deleting a user or running PurgeDeletedContents against content whose underlying record was gone, and a permissions fix where users with ManageSettings but not ManageModules were offered a Configure button on disabled modules. The 1.18 betas are ordinary polish: login screen layout, theme inheritance, validators, translations and installer fixes.
◆ Where it's heading
The 1.19 cycle is being spent making the migration survivable on real installations rather than adding capability, which is the usual shape when a schema change meets databases that have accumulated orphaned rows over years. The permission fix points the same way: tightening the boundary between managing settings and managing modules is cleanup of an authorisation model, not an extension of it.
◆ Prediction
Only beta tags appear in this feed, so a 1.19.0 stable is the obvious next milestone, but nothing here dates it. Note that the gap between the 1.18 betas and the 1.19 beta is roughly six months, which is the only cadence signal available.
SiYuan
6.3COLLAB
SiYuan stabilises 3.8.1 after a seven-build beta run, all of it widening the agent surface it opened in 3.8.0
◆ Current state
SiYuan has just cut 3.8.1 stable, the endpoint of a beta chain that ran six builds in five days. The release groups into three areas: AI integration work - custom editor actions syncing across devices, an Agent panel shortcut, user-level skills read from a shared agents directory, nested rerank API formats and OpenAI Responses API support; editing and database throughput, including virtualised grouped-table rendering and faster document loading; and cross-platform reliability covering HEIF/HEIC previews, PDF export and mobile behaviour. A batch of MCP and publishing-service fixes rounds it out.
◆ Where it's heading
This is consolidation of the surface 3.8.0 opened, not an extension of it. The agent, semantic search and MCP endpoint arrived in the 3.8.0 line; 3.8.1 makes them portable and pluggable - skills come from a directory the user controls, editor actions follow the user between devices, and the provider layer now speaks the OpenAI Responses API rather than one bespoke shape. The high beta count against a modest final diff shows a project stabilising a young subsystem rather than building a new one.
◆ Prediction
The next line most likely pushes on the skills directory - discovery, sharing or marketplace distribution of user-level skills - since that is the piece 3.8.1 made user-editable without giving it a distribution path.
Alternatives to HumHub and SiYuan
Other Collab products tracked by Sparkpulse, ranked by recent ship velocity. Each card links to a full editorial trajectory and lets you pivot into a head-to-head comparison with either HumHub or SiYuan.
Hive
Hive ships in batches, and this one is all planning accuracy and admin control.
Teable
Teable ships daily, and the work has moved from grid features to platform governance.
Simpplr
Simpplr publishes the research that names the gap, then ships the product that closes it.
NetNewsWire
NetNewsWire's 7.1.3 train has moved from rebuilding sync to sweeping up what the rebuild disturbed.
Document360
Document360 rebuilt its API for agents; now it's turning the AI inward on authoring.
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Recent activity from HumHub and SiYuan
Latest ship moves from both products, interleaved chronologically. ⚡ = editorial spark.
- 22h agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.1 stabilises the agent, skills and Responses API work
- 2d agoSiYuanSlash menu items become configurable; table column widths distribute evenly
- 2d agoSiYuanTable headers left-align by default; double-click closes tabs
- 3d agoSiYuanUser-level agent skills and virtualized grouped-table rendering
- 3d agoSiYuanAI features move to the OpenAI Responses API
- 4d agoSiYuanAgent panel gains a shortcut; blockquote input fixed
- 28d agoHumHub1.19 upgrade migration and orphaned content fixes
- 7mo agoHumHubLogin screen, theming and validator fixes
- 9mo agoHumHubGroup manager options and assorted UI fixes
Frequently asked questions
What is the difference between HumHub and SiYuan?
They serve adjacent needs but don't currently overlap on shipped themes. SiYuan is currently shipping more aggressively (velocity 6.3 vs 2.5), with 0 editorial sparks in the last 30 days against 0. See the at-a-glance table above for a side-by-side breakdown of velocity, recent sparks, and editorial themes.
Is HumHub better than SiYuan?
Sparkpulse doesn't pick a winner — we score release velocity, not feature parity. SiYuan is currently shipping more aggressively (velocity 6.3 vs 2.5), with 0 editorial sparks in the last 30 days against 0. For your specific use case, the alternatives sections above list other Collab products to evaluate alongside.
What are the best alternatives to HumHub?
Top HumHub alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "HumHub alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/humhub for the full list with editorial commentary on each.
What are the best alternatives to SiYuan?
Top SiYuan alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "SiYuan alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/siyuan for the full list with editorial commentary on each.