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Elgg vs SiYuan
A side-by-side editorial comparison of Elgg and SiYuan — release velocity, themes, recent moves, and the top alternatives to consider.
Elgg vs SiYuan: at a glance
What is Elgg?
Elgg ships paired 7.1.2 and 6.3.9 patches: both branches stay in maintenance mode.
Elgg is a mature open-source PHP framework for self-hosted community platforms. The 7.0 major shipped in May 2026, and 7.1.0 in September added invitation-only groups, header images for generic entities and a MariaDB recommendation. 7.1.1 fixed profile access display and trash recovery, and on October 21 Elgg shipped 7.1.2 and 6.3.9 together, both with no release notes beyond the contributor list.
What is SiYuan?
SiYuan 3.8.9 reaches RC, adding AI-agent extraction of images embedded in PDFs.
SiYuan moved 3.8.9 from beta.6 to rc.1 on Oct 28. The RC's only new item is AI-agent extraction of images embedded in PDFs; the rest of its long list matches beta.5's cumulative notes: pinned agent sessions, backlink filtering by database fields, block-reference collection through database automation, resizable table rows, mind-map themes and node copy/paste, TIFF previews and macOS proxy detection.
Elgg vs SiYuan: editorial side-by-side
Elgg
5.0COLLAB
Elgg ships paired 7.1.2 and 6.3.9 patches: both branches stay in maintenance mode.
◆ Current state
Elgg is a mature open-source PHP framework for self-hosted community platforms. The 7.0 major shipped in May 2026, and 7.1.0 in September added invitation-only groups, header images for generic entities and a MariaDB recommendation. 7.1.1 fixed profile access display and trash recovery, and on October 21 Elgg shipped 7.1.2 and 6.3.9 together, both with no release notes beyond the contributor list.
◆ Where it's heading
Elgg follows a predictable cadence: a feature minor, then single-digit patch releases, with paired backports on the 6.3 branch. The 7.1 features centred on finer access control and generic entity handling, and the follow-up patches stay in those areas. The project favours stability over pace.
◆ Prediction
More 7.1.x patches are likely, released in pairs with 6.3.x as happened again today. The entries give no signal about what a 7.2 would contain.
SiYuan
5.0COLLAB
SiYuan 3.8.9 reaches RC, adding AI-agent extraction of images embedded in PDFs.
◆ Current state
SiYuan moved 3.8.9 from beta.6 to rc.1 on Oct 28. The RC's only new item is AI-agent extraction of images embedded in PDFs; the rest of its long list matches beta.5's cumulative notes: pinned agent sessions, backlink filtering by database fields, block-reference collection through database automation, resizable table rows, mind-map themes and node copy/paste, TIFF previews and macOS proxy detection.
◆ Where it's heading
The 3.8.x line keeps turning databases and mind maps into structured tools that act on the block graph, and the built-in agent is gaining reach into document content such as PDFs. The release cadence is fast and noisy, with most builds repeating the same cumulative notes.
◆ Prediction
A stable 3.8.9 is likely within days, with little added beyond fixes now that it has reached RC.
Alternatives to Elgg and SiYuan
Other Collab products tracked by Sparkpulse, ranked by recent ship velocity. Each card links to a full editorial trajectory and lets you pivot into a head-to-head comparison with either Elgg or SiYuan.
KACE
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Mattermost
Mattermost v12 puts user-scoped permissions, private models and audit trails on every agent action.
AFFiNE
AFFiNE's canaries stay on upkeep: a Swift Collections bump follows CVE and migration fixes.
Teable
Teable's Structured Query v2 now reports across multi-hop relations, with a strict mode against SQL.
Readwise
Readwise splits its bundle into Reader-only and Highlights-only plans and renames its first app.
Recent activity from Elgg and SiYuan
Latest ship moves from both products, interleaved chronologically. ⚡ = editorial spark.
- 1d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.9 RC1: AI agent extracts images from PDFs
- 1d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.9 beta 6 (same notes as beta 5)
- 1d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.9 beta 5: full notes incl. pinned agent sessions
- 2d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.9 beta 4 improves LaTeX paste and import
- 2d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.9 beta 3 (same notes as beta 1)
- 2d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.9 beta 2 (same notes as beta 1)
- 8d agoElggElgg 7.1.2: small patch, paired with 6.3.9, no notes
- 8d agoElggElgg 6.3.9: paired backport patch for the 6.x line, no notes
- 20d agoElggElgg 7.1.1 fixes profile access display, trash recovery and theming
- 1mo agoElggElgg 7.1.0: invitation-only groups and MariaDB becomes the recommended database
- 2mo agoElggElgg 7.0.5
- 2mo agoElggElgg 6.3.8
Frequently asked questions
What is the difference between Elgg and SiYuan?
They serve adjacent needs but don't currently overlap on shipped themes. Elgg and SiYuan are shipping at a similar cadence (velocity 5.0 vs 5.0, both within Sparkpulse's "active" band). See the at-a-glance table above for a side-by-side breakdown of velocity, recent sparks, and editorial themes.
Is Elgg better than SiYuan?
Sparkpulse doesn't pick a winner — we score release velocity, not feature parity. Elgg and SiYuan are shipping at a similar cadence (velocity 5.0 vs 5.0, both within Sparkpulse's "active" band). For your specific use case, the alternatives sections above list other Collab products to evaluate alongside.
What are the best alternatives to Elgg?
Top Elgg alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "Elgg alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/elgg for the full list with editorial commentary on each.
What are the best alternatives to SiYuan?
Top SiYuan alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "SiYuan alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/siyuan for the full list with editorial commentary on each.