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Logseq vs SiYuan
A side-by-side editorial comparison of Logseq and SiYuan — release velocity, themes, recent moves, and the top alternatives to consider.
Logseq vs SiYuan: at a glance
What is Logseq?
Logseq ships its first 2.0 beta, betting its future on a database backend.
Logseq spent over a year in a slow beta cadence on the file-based 0.10.x line, shipping mostly Electron bumps, embed fixes, and one security patch. Today it released the first public beta of 2.0, rebuilt on a new database (DB) storage engine, and confirmed the project is splitting into two versions. This is the payoff of a long-promised rewrite.
What is SiYuan?
SiYuan 3.8.9 reaches RC, adding AI-agent extraction of images embedded in PDFs.
SiYuan moved 3.8.9 from beta.6 to rc.1 on Oct 28. The RC's only new item is AI-agent extraction of images embedded in PDFs; the rest of its long list matches beta.5's cumulative notes: pinned agent sessions, backlink filtering by database fields, block-reference collection through database automation, resizable table rows, mind-map themes and node copy/paste, TIFF previews and macOS proxy detection.
Logseq vs SiYuan: editorial side-by-side
Logseq
3.8COLLAB
Logseq ships its first 2.0 beta, betting its future on a database backend.
◆ Current state
Logseq spent over a year in a slow beta cadence on the file-based 0.10.x line, shipping mostly Electron bumps, embed fixes, and one security patch. Today it released the first public beta of 2.0, rebuilt on a new database (DB) storage engine, and confirmed the project is splitting into two versions. This is the payoff of a long-promised rewrite.
◆ Where it's heading
The DB rewrite moves Logseq off Markdown-file storage toward a database model, the prerequisite for the faster queries, reliable sync, and multi-device support the file-based app has struggled to deliver. Expect the 0.10.x line to slide into maintenance while 2.0 stabilizes. The formal split into two versions signals Logseq intends to keep supporting local Markdown graphs rather than force-migrate everyone.
◆ Prediction
Near-term releases will be rapid 2.0.x betas hardening the DB engine and the Markdown-to-DB migration path; a stable 2.0 hinges on how cleanly existing graphs import.
SiYuan
5.0COLLAB
SiYuan 3.8.9 reaches RC, adding AI-agent extraction of images embedded in PDFs.
◆ Current state
SiYuan moved 3.8.9 from beta.6 to rc.1 on Oct 28. The RC's only new item is AI-agent extraction of images embedded in PDFs; the rest of its long list matches beta.5's cumulative notes: pinned agent sessions, backlink filtering by database fields, block-reference collection through database automation, resizable table rows, mind-map themes and node copy/paste, TIFF previews and macOS proxy detection.
◆ Where it's heading
The 3.8.x line keeps turning databases and mind maps into structured tools that act on the block graph, and the built-in agent is gaining reach into document content such as PDFs. The release cadence is fast and noisy, with most builds repeating the same cumulative notes.
◆ Prediction
A stable 3.8.9 is likely within days, with little added beyond fixes now that it has reached RC.
Alternatives to Logseq and SiYuan
Other Collab products tracked by Sparkpulse, ranked by recent ship velocity. Each card links to a full editorial trajectory and lets you pivot into a head-to-head comparison with either Logseq or SiYuan.
KACE
KACE extends its PHP2SHELL fix to the SDA deployment appliance, six days after disclosure.
Mattermost
Mattermost v12 puts user-scoped permissions, private models and audit trails on every agent action.
AFFiNE
AFFiNE's canaries stay on upkeep: a Swift Collections bump follows CVE and migration fixes.
Teable
Teable's Structured Query v2 now reports across multi-hop relations, with a strict mode against SQL.
Readwise
Readwise splits its bundle into Reader-only and Highlights-only plans and renames its first app.
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Recent activity from Logseq and SiYuan
Latest ship moves from both products, interleaved chronologically. ⚡ = editorial spark.
- 1d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.9 RC1: AI agent extracts images from PDFs
- 1d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.9 beta 6 (same notes as beta 5)
- 2d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.9 beta 5: full notes incl. pinned agent sessions
- 2d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.9 beta 4 improves LaTeX paste and import
- 2d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.9 beta 3 (same notes as beta 1)
- 2d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.9 beta 2 (same notes as beta 1)
- 3mo agoLogseqDesktop APP 2.0.1 (Beta Testing) ⚡
- 4mo agoLogseqbackup/icon-picker-pre-hsx-merge
- 10mo agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.15 (Beta Testing)
- 1y agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.14 (Beta Testing)
- 1y agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.13 (Beta Testing)
- 1y agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.12 (Beta Testing)
Frequently asked questions
What is the difference between Logseq and SiYuan?
They serve adjacent needs but don't currently overlap on shipped themes. SiYuan is currently shipping more aggressively (velocity 5.0 vs 3.8), with 0 editorial sparks in the last 30 days against 0. See the at-a-glance table above for a side-by-side breakdown of velocity, recent sparks, and editorial themes.
Is Logseq better than SiYuan?
Sparkpulse doesn't pick a winner — we score release velocity, not feature parity. SiYuan is currently shipping more aggressively (velocity 5.0 vs 3.8), with 0 editorial sparks in the last 30 days against 0. For your specific use case, the alternatives sections above list other Collab products to evaluate alongside.
What are the best alternatives to Logseq?
Top Logseq alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "Logseq alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/logseq for the full list with editorial commentary on each.
What are the best alternatives to SiYuan?
Top SiYuan alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "SiYuan alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/siyuan for the full list with editorial commentary on each.