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Logseq vs SiYuan
A side-by-side editorial comparison of Logseq and SiYuan — release velocity, themes, recent moves, and the top alternatives to consider.
Shared themes:knowledge-management
Logseq vs SiYuan: at a glance
What is Logseq?
Logseq ships its first 2.0 beta, betting its future on a database backend.
Logseq spent over a year in a slow beta cadence on the file-based 0.10.x line, shipping mostly Electron bumps, embed fixes, and one security patch. Today it released the first public beta of 2.0, rebuilt on a new database (DB) storage engine, and confirmed the project is splitting into two versions. This is the payoff of a long-promised rewrite.
What is SiYuan?
SiYuan stabilises 3.8.1 after a seven-build beta run, all of it widening the agent surface it opened in 3.8.0
SiYuan has just cut 3.8.1 stable, the endpoint of a beta chain that ran six builds in five days. The release groups into three areas: AI integration work - custom editor actions syncing across devices, an Agent panel shortcut, user-level skills read from a shared agents directory, nested rerank API formats and OpenAI Responses API support; editing and database throughput, including virtualised grouped-table rendering and faster document loading; and cross-platform reliability covering HEIF/HEIC previews, PDF export and mobile behaviour. A batch of MCP and publishing-service fixes rounds it out.
Logseq vs SiYuan: editorial side-by-side
Logseq
3.8COLLAB
Logseq ships its first 2.0 beta, betting its future on a database backend.
◆ Current state
Logseq spent over a year in a slow beta cadence on the file-based 0.10.x line, shipping mostly Electron bumps, embed fixes, and one security patch. Today it released the first public beta of 2.0, rebuilt on a new database (DB) storage engine, and confirmed the project is splitting into two versions. This is the payoff of a long-promised rewrite.
◆ Where it's heading
The DB rewrite moves Logseq off Markdown-file storage toward a database model, the prerequisite for the faster queries, reliable sync, and multi-device support the file-based app has struggled to deliver. Expect the 0.10.x line to slide into maintenance while 2.0 stabilizes. The formal split into two versions signals Logseq intends to keep supporting local Markdown graphs rather than force-migrate everyone.
◆ Prediction
Near-term releases will be rapid 2.0.x betas hardening the DB engine and the Markdown-to-DB migration path; a stable 2.0 hinges on how cleanly existing graphs import.
SiYuan
6.3COLLAB
SiYuan stabilises 3.8.1 after a seven-build beta run, all of it widening the agent surface it opened in 3.8.0
◆ Current state
SiYuan has just cut 3.8.1 stable, the endpoint of a beta chain that ran six builds in five days. The release groups into three areas: AI integration work - custom editor actions syncing across devices, an Agent panel shortcut, user-level skills read from a shared agents directory, nested rerank API formats and OpenAI Responses API support; editing and database throughput, including virtualised grouped-table rendering and faster document loading; and cross-platform reliability covering HEIF/HEIC previews, PDF export and mobile behaviour. A batch of MCP and publishing-service fixes rounds it out.
◆ Where it's heading
This is consolidation of the surface 3.8.0 opened, not an extension of it. The agent, semantic search and MCP endpoint arrived in the 3.8.0 line; 3.8.1 makes them portable and pluggable - skills come from a directory the user controls, editor actions follow the user between devices, and the provider layer now speaks the OpenAI Responses API rather than one bespoke shape. The high beta count against a modest final diff shows a project stabilising a young subsystem rather than building a new one.
◆ Prediction
The next line most likely pushes on the skills directory - discovery, sharing or marketplace distribution of user-level skills - since that is the piece 3.8.1 made user-editable without giving it a distribution path.
Alternatives to Logseq and SiYuan
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Recent activity from Logseq and SiYuan
Latest ship moves from both products, interleaved chronologically. ⚡ = editorial spark.
- 1d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.1 stabilises the agent, skills and Responses API work
- 2d agoSiYuanSlash menu items become configurable; table column widths distribute evenly
- 2d agoSiYuanTable headers left-align by default; double-click closes tabs
- 3d agoSiYuanUser-level agent skills and virtualized grouped-table rendering
- 4d agoSiYuanAI features move to the OpenAI Responses API
- 4d agoSiYuanAgent panel gains a shortcut; blockquote input fixed
- 1mo agoLogseqDesktop APP 2.0.1 (Beta Testing) ⚡
- 2mo agoLogseqbackup/icon-picker-pre-hsx-merge
- 8mo agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.15 (Beta Testing)
- 10mo agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.14 (Beta Testing)
- 1y agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.13 (Beta Testing)
- 1y agoLogseqDesktop/Android APP 0.10.12 (Beta Testing)
Frequently asked questions
What is the difference between Logseq and SiYuan?
Both compete on the same themes — knowledge-management — within Collab. SiYuan is currently shipping more aggressively (velocity 6.3 vs 3.8), with 0 editorial sparks in the last 30 days against 0. See the at-a-glance table above for a side-by-side breakdown of velocity, recent sparks, and editorial themes.
Is Logseq better than SiYuan?
Sparkpulse doesn't pick a winner — we score release velocity, not feature parity. SiYuan is currently shipping more aggressively (velocity 6.3 vs 3.8), with 0 editorial sparks in the last 30 days against 0. For your specific use case, the alternatives sections above list other Collab products to evaluate alongside.
What are the best alternatives to Logseq?
Top Logseq alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "Logseq alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/logseq for the full list with editorial commentary on each.
What are the best alternatives to SiYuan?
Top SiYuan alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "SiYuan alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/siyuan for the full list with editorial commentary on each.